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posted by Andi Voeltz on 2004/05/20

E-TTL solutions

It is an recurring question: "Will my new digital camera support E-ttl?" And the answer always starts with: "It depends,...". Many digital underwater divers resort to house their system strobes to solve this issue. System strobes have less power than their specialized amphibic relatives and this will often result in longer recycle times. Handy for macro but suboptimal for wide-angle photography.


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  1. General description
  2. Olympus
  3. Canon
  4. Sony, Samsung
General description
Also a large number of analogue phoographers switching to digital still own amphibic strobes - usually an investment that nobody likes to throw away. In the past many of them ended up shooting in manual mode. Lately manufacturers as Aquatica put much effort into integrating electronic support for (canon) E-ttl into their new underwater housings.

inon introduced a digital strobe converter during last year's DemA show which should be able to convert Nikonos signals into fibre-optic ttl. We have not heard of anyone using it in the field so far and some rumours about patent issues have surfaced on the net during the last month. No matter how interesting this solution might sound it would not help the owners of Nikonos, subtronic, Hartenberger or some (non-fibre-optic) Sea&Sea strobes.

Another widely ignored problem are the ttl protocols of olyMPUS and SONY. You will have a hard time in finding support from any strobe manufacturer. This also includes smaller, less prestigious models from canon and Minolta. Contrary to the previously mentioned brands, Nikon had a unique selling point to digital underwater photographers for a long time. Even smaller models as the Nikon Coolpix 990 supported the good old Nikonos ttl. However this was disrupted with the introduction of the D100 which only supported the new D-ttl. Nikon shooters resorted to the Fuji S2 Pro to find the Nikonos ttl support they were looking for or started to shoot in manual mode.

Summing up all the above reveals that squeezing ttl functionality out of your digital underwater rig is not a trivial task. However everybody wants it. Also Matthias Heinrichs from Münster, Germany wanted ttl on his olympus underwater camera. What makes Matthias Heinrichs different from other divers is that he is studying electro-technics. Therefore it was easy for Matthias to develop a solution to overcome this compatibility problem. He decided to convert the optical signals of any camera with an internal flash into electronic language.

His idea was much like the inon approach which uses fibre-optics to regulate strobes. But Mathias solution goes one step beyond and directly converts the signal into existing ttl protocols compatible with a huge number of traditional amphibic strobes. The signal is made available through a standard Nikonos socket. So the good news for many underwater photographers which are in the transition to digital is that they can re-utilize their existing strobe setup by buying a simple and price-worthy adapter.

But beware: the limiting factor is that your digital camera offers an internal flash and that your housing allows enough space to have it pop-up. The first limitation is rare and only has to be taken into account with high digital SLRs such as the EOS 1Ds. The second problem however might occur quite often as many manufacturers focus on developing lightweight and tight housings. Therefore it is obvious that the solution seems perfect for polycarbonate housings where the strobe signals can be intercepted behind the translucent material.

This results in a solution that can get wet and is simply strapped in front of your housing. We have taken some sample photos of Matthias Webpage and his friend Michael Finger who has specialized in mounting the adapter on various polycarbonate housings.
olympus

mountadapter for different settings

pt10 with universal mount(mounted on proline Prototype)

pt10 on a proline with duo mount and 2 ys60 ttl strobes

pt10 with inon uwl100 and domeport

pt10 with proline bar and MD 02 strobearms far outside

same as left image, but arms on the sides in same height as the object

same setting as previous images, but strobes in macro setting

pt10 inon uwl100 domeport Detail

pt10 inon uwl 100 Typ 2 Detail

proline with lensmount for all inon or M67 screw thread lenses

pt12 with mount adapter and proline Set 2 + ys60ttl/N

pt12 with Epoque DCL20 and strobe and torch on proline Set2, handle with strobeadapter (incl. special mount adapter)

PT 15 with mount adapter and proline Set 2 + ys60ttl/S

PT18 with mount adapter and proline Set 2

PT 15 with olympus ttl converter and proline Set 2

Detail from converter mount for pt15

PT 20 with olympus ttl converter and proline Set 2

Detail from converter mount for pt20

pt20 with olympus oem ttl with kable connection and T Socket (duo Sea and Sea) on proline Set 2 and MD arm 02

same as previous image, but from back with connector mount. the cable route is no problem for handling the camera.

pt15 with oem ttl Converter and Niconos connection

pt15 with Niconos Socket (Detail)(pressure test was successful down to 40m without any problems)

pt15 with Niconos socket (inner view)

T 20 with olympus oem Converter and olympus connector

PT 20 with ys300 and MD olympus/Sea and Sea sync cable

Detail MD olympus/Sea and Sea sync cable. price for the setting incl. oem Converter is about 180,00 Euro and available around end of july

canon

wpdc 300 on Ecoline with MD Arm 2 (Prototyp)

wpdc 300 with Sea and Sea ww 20 mm on proline Set 2 and universal adapter

wpdc 300 complete with inon uwl105 AD and AD adapter as well as lense mount and helix cable on proline Set 2 and an AD digital mount adapter.

same as previous.
This setting was done exclusivly on a special request from a customer

wpdc 700 on proline Set 2 with mount adapter

wpdc 800 with proline Set 2 with rubber band mount adapter (the same setting as for the wpdc 700 is also available)

wpdc 700 with rubber band adapter mount

Sony, Samsung

Sony MPK P5 on proline Set2. With this setting only the rubber band setting is available, because its not possible to fixate the universal mount on the rubber object ring. This issue applies to all sony housings.

Samsung Digimax V4 on proline Set 2 with universal mount



comments

hey i’m thinking of going into underwater photography but my current digicam, fujifilm f455, doesnt seem to have an underwater housing. is fujifilm going to be making underwater housings for its f455 camera model anytime soon?

plz reply asap!! thx!!

cheers

posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 2005/06/30 Singapore

i also have a fuji film f455 and seein as my last underwater camera has just broken i am lookin for an underwater housing for my f455, are fuji going to bring on out? or is one going to become available from another source?

plz let me know as soon as you can

thanks alot

nick

by the way your site is really cool

posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 2005/12/05 Great Britain (UK)

My question is a bit the reverse. I have a YS50 strobe with a TTL fitting for a Sea & Sea MM2 camera. I now have digital cameras and housings but only with fibre offtakes. Is there such a thing as a converter from a fibre offtake to connect with the TTL fitting?

posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 2007/01/28 Australia

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posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on 2009/12/14 India

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