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Posted: 24 June 2004 05:14 PM  [Ignore]
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Nice picture, but too many votes for this picture if you look on the results of the other very good pictures of this week ....

I hope, the loggin voting system will start soon....


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Posted: 25 June 2004 10:40 AM  [Ignore]  [ # 1]
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thank you. it was the first time i dived with a camera.


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Posted: 25 June 2004 10:55 AM  [Ignore]  [ # 2]
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what is the problem with my picture?

why do you think it has too many votes?


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Posted: 25 June 2004 12:16 PM  [Ignore]  [ # 3]
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I agree it is a nice photo, one to be proud of, especially on a first dive.

Maybe Lars could check the distribution of votes to see if they are mostly coming from the same area or evenly spread out.

This would reduce suspicion.  smile

Ian


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Posted: 25 June 2004 12:26 PM  [Ignore]  [ # 4]
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Hi Ricardo,

your picture is very nice for the first dive with a camera, but let us
compare your picture with the colemani picture from Perry. What do you
think, which image is more appealing. I think it’s the colemani from Perry
for several reasons.

1. Perry’s image clearly focus on one subject, while your picture has at least
two (two clown fishes) and the disturbing background.

2. Perry’s image uses several composition techniques. First it shows
perfectly how the shrimp uses its camouflage. These camouflage and the
coral forms nice patterns in the image. This is one of many composition
techniques. Another on is to use depth of field to focus on the main subject
and try to blur all other areas (this is why the second shrimp does not
disturb). He also didn’t placed the main subject in the middle rather on the
right side. This creates more attention.
For more techniques look at:
http://www.fodors.com/focus/focselect.cfm?catid=9

3. Some areas in your pictures show backscatter, dirt or reflections (the
bright spot on the clown fish for instance), which is not very appealing.
I couldn’t find any in Perry’s picture.

I like your picture, but honestly I don’t see it as a winner. I’m impressed
that one of your first shots underwater is done that well, but as a beginners
shot it has some missing things and failures as stated above. 

I know there is no price for this contest and that our rules are strict, but we
see this contest as a possibility to let all the underwater photographs share
their pictures and discuss about it. This might help to improve their own
pictures.

I hope I could somehow “objectivly” explain my objection about your high
votes. I hope you see this as a feedback on your pictures which helps you
with your next underwater photographic attempts and I would like to see
some more of your pictures in this contest.

/lars

PS: The majority of your votes are from logins at pooles.rima-tde.net. Can
you explain why we should accept this?


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Posted: 25 June 2004 03:23 PM  [Ignore]  [ # 5]
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1- my inglish is not very good, so there are some words i don´t understand very well, excuse me.

2- i think so, that colemani is a super foto, and that i have to learn a lot of underwater-photography.

3- i´m not sure to understand :"The majority of your votes are from logins at pooles.rima-tde.net. Can
you explain why we should accept this?”.
if you mean that those votes , or at least, some of them are of my friends, you are right, some of them came with me diving.

4- sorry if i have disturb you, i will like to share more photos with all of you.
i did 500 al least in this, my first journey.

5- i will please you if you use with me , “ easy inglish words” because i don´t understand very well your message.

6- thank you for your time and congratulations for this “super-web”

ps: do you talk spanish ?


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Posted: 27 June 2004 10:11 PM  [Ignore]  [ # 6]
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Hi Ricardo,

[list:6f89de7b59]1. Unfortunately we do not speak Spanish, so I hope you get along with our English.[/list:u:6f89de7b59][list:6f89de7b59]2. well there are some improvements, “colemani” could also benefit from, but that is another topic grin[/list:u:6f89de7b59][list:6f89de7b59]3. Well,… our system indicated that most of your votes originated from the same PC POOL. Probably in a university or company? We cannot judge if you used different PCs to promote your own picture or if you just told or your collegues and friends to vote for you. Dont’ get us wrong: We appreciate if you tell all your friends about our site, but the only valuable vote is the one you receive from another photographer. :wink: To be fair, I had to downgrade your votes.[/list:u:6f89de7b59][list:6f89de7b59]4. We’d be very happy to see more of your images in the coming weeks[/list:u:6f89de7b59]


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Posted: 28 June 2004 12:09 AM  [Ignore]  [ # 7]
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unfortunately i finished my carreer 8 years ago, so i have not voted from the university .
as i told you , i asked to some friends, some of them divers like me, if they could vote my picture, i don´t know how they have voted.....
I´m not very happy but i accept your decision.
I ´ll try it again next week.

xxx


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