Canon G7 + Ikelite Housing n TTL Sync Cord + Inon Z240 n Optical Cable
Posted: 28 September 2007 08:36 AM  [Ignore]
Fairy Baslet
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I have all the above items except the Ikelite housing (6147) is shipping from a US friend . I have a few questions on using flash under this combination :

1. Ikelite claims that only manual operation ( no TTL ) when using Inon strobes even connected with their sync cord (4118.1) , so, everytime I need to adjust the aperture/shutter and the Inon strobe ? in such case, this sync cord’s function = fibre cable ? It is so bad that with Ikelite DS-strobes , the real TTL is available.

2. I am not really experience to adjust the aperture/shutter all the times , could the Inon “External Auto” be used under this combination , any other way ? I just want a simply way to let the flash fired accurately.

3. I am a beginner of using external flash , with this combination , what could be the simple configuration or method to get correct exposure , especially Macro.

Many thanks for those who could advise me.


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Posted: 29 September 2007 12:22 PM  [Ignore]  [ # 1]
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Hi there

I’d say you have two main options:
1 - use the Ikelite sync cord and control the strobe manually or use External Auto
2- use the optical cable and use the Inon sTTL.

I shoot a rig using Ikelite’s manual controller, so I don’t have any form of TTL as an option.  In general I haven’t found it that troublesome to experiment a little with each shot to get the strobe power set for correct exposure.  With my Canon S70, I have found good results (at least I consider them good!) by using Aperture priority mode on the camera, with forced flash.

This means the camera’s flash always fires, and so my strobe always triggers.  I can mess around with the aperture, which I do primarily to (crudely) control depth of field.  I manage exposure by controlling the strobe power level.  After a couple of dives, I have found I can preset the strobe power for a given situation with reasonably accuracy based on the distance to the subject and the type of shot I am trying to take.  Minor tweaking can be done over a couple of shots to fine tune the exposure.

I think you’ll probably get used to the manual setting approach quite quickly.  When you get down to it, there aren’t as many settings to control as you think.  To trigger the strobe, you need your camera to fire its own flash, so you will probably use forced flash mode.  This means the camera will probably pick a shutter speed of 1/60th because this is the flash sync speed, so you won’t be able to (or need to) adjust the shutter speed.  One variable fixed!  So you only need to think about aperture and strobe power level.  You could initally just pick a mid range aperture and leave it at that for the whole dive, which leaves you with just strobe power to think about.

Of course, you will always have to think about strobe positioning:  you can vary the distance the strobe is away from the subject which affects exposure, and obviously the angle of the strobe lighting and its position has a significant effect over the look of each picture.  This is probably where the most experimentation and learning from experience will come in.

Finally, I don’t use an Inon strobe, but as far as I can tell, the External Auto option can be used as you describe in your question 2.

To some extent it is probably inescapable that when you first use an external strobe (or pretty much any other u/w photography accessory) your results will suffer until you get used to the new kit.  I certainly found my pictures suffered for the first couple of dives with a new strobe.  Shortly after that I figured out how to use it better, and my photos improved again, this time exceeding what I could achieve without the strobe.  You may find that you have to go through this ‘pain’ and get some experience with the strobe, try out a few different ways of using it, and settle on a workable approach for you.

It sounds like you have the gear on the way, so the hard decisions are already made (i.e. what to buy!), now all you need to do is get in the water and play with your new toys.  The beauty of digital is that you have nothing to lose by experimenting and trying new things out.  If the shot doesn’t work out, delete it and try something else!

Anyway, good luck, and have fun with your new kit - it certainly looks a nice rig to me.

cheers

Graham


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Posted: 02 October 2007 02:24 AM  [Ignore]  [ # 2]
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Tks a lot for your comment , I will try this out shortly by next week in Bali’s trip.


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Posted: 03 October 2007 03:48 AM  [Ignore]  [ # 3]
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I received the Ikelite 6147 Housing last night and then setup all devices ( arms , strobe , torch , sync cord ) , using external auto to test , the photo is a little bit over exposure , if I adjust G7’s aperture to be smaller than the setting in Inon strobe, the photo become good. However, I do think that when underwater , the water will absorb some flash light , so, using the same aperture settings in strobe and G7 should be ok. Testing for Macro is OK too , but need to raise up higher the strobe’s position. Will bring them all to Bali by next week.......


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